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Welcome to the hub for '''proposals'''. This section of the wiki allows users to share their ideas for potential changes to the wiki and look for consensus in approving them. The goal of this feature is to promote collaboration as a community and ensure that '''all''' World of Cars Wiki users have a say in important wiki decisions.
{{Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Header}}


==Process==
==Active proposals==
#If you have an idea you would like to suggest, you may create a proposal by adding a topic under the "Active proposals" heading. Proposals can cover any articles and spaces. As the proposer, you must provide both an explanation of what your proposal consists of as well as a compelling argument to justify why it should be passed.
#Once a Proposal has been created, the voting period begins. Users have one week to declare whether they '''Support''' or '''Oppose''' the given proposal. This can be done by [[World of Cars Wiki:Signatures|signing]] your username under either the "Support" or "Oppose" sections respectively, accompanied by an explanation of why you feel the way you do. All users can debate and discuss with one another in the "Discussion" heading.
#In certain cases, the '''Support''' or '''Oppose''' dichotomy may not do a discussion justice. Sometimes there are more options. In these sorts of situations, you can offer your opinion in multiple sections, so long as your selections do not contradict one another.
#After the week-long period ends, the final result is determined by which section had the most names signed. If the majority of users chose to Support the proposal, it indicates consensus, and the change may now be implemented. If more users chose to Oppose, the changes will not be put into effect.
#In the event of a tie, the voting period will be extended an additional week.
#Once completed, the result of the proposal will be logged at the bottom of this article, and an archive of its voting process will be catalogued [[World of Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive|here]].


==Rules==
===The Character Tab===
#Proposals must provide a detailed explanation of the intended change, as well as a mock-up or draft of what the change would look like in effect.
The Character Will Stay In The Top Of The Wiki Page. aka its the tab where you find your character. like when i wanna search for Lightning Mcqueen. i go to the Character tab and Click on which movie/show and then click on it to go to the page.
#You must choose to '''Support''' ''or'' '''Oppose''', not both. In discussions with many options, you can sometimes pick more than one option, but make sure your answers are not contradictory.
#While you are free to explain yourself however they like, you may ''not'' edit any comments that are not your own. The only situation in which a comment should be edited or removed is by an administrator in the event that the comment violates any of the [[World of Cars Wiki:Rules|site rules]].
#All comments must stay on topic.
#While there are no limits or requirements for the lengths of comments, explanations should be as clear and concise as possible. Do not reply with sarcasm or "jokes" that do not reflect your true thoughts.
#Proposals are all about discussing ''changes'' to the wiki. They are not a way to rally for community projects. For instance, an idea like "Upload screenshots for ''Cars: Radiator Springs Adventures''" is not a valid proposal. These sorts of discussions are better had in the [[Forum:Index|Forum]].
#Please be respectful. It is perfectly fine, even encouraged, to debate, but arguments should be kept formal and not personal. Remember: [[:wikipedia:Don't be a jerk|Don't be a jerk.]]


==Active proposals==
'''Proposer''': {{User|Davidvercoolto}}<br>
===Disable the achievements system===
'''Deadline''': November 30, 2023, 11:59 GMT
Hello everyone, this week I would like to propose to '''disable the achievements system'''. If you do not know, Fandom offers [[w:c:community:Help:Achievements|achievements]] as one of many widgets available for use, and our wiki has utilized it for a very long time. When you reach certain milestones, such as editing a specified number of pages or adding a specified number of photos, you get an achievement awarding you an amount of points. The more achievements you earn, the higher your points total grows, and the twenty users who have the most points are displayed on a [[Special:Leaderboard|leaderboard]].
 
====Support====
#{{User|Davidvercoolto}} - Per proposal


However, there are many problems I have with this system, many of them stemming from the fact that it goes against the philosophy of a wiki. First and foremost, '''editing is not a game.''' When you contribute to our site, your goal should be to help build the best ''Cars'' encyclopedia possible, not work towards arbitrary goals that earn you points on a leaderboard. Your sole motivation for editing an article should be to improve it. Article improvement is the end, not the means.
====Oppose====
#{{User|RodRedlineM1}} - Neglects other focal points, most notably the ''Cars'' series itself


The next problem is that the actions that earn you badges are not in any way proportional to what is ''actually'' helpful to maintain our site. For one thing, the mainspace is the only namespace for which edits count toward the badge counts. This means that the file, template, talk, and special spaces (among others) do not provide any kind of reward for editing them, despite being extremely important and needing just as much work. For instance, we have an absurd number of files that are uncategorized or do not display the proper license information. Contributing to those pages would be a massive help, but they would earn you absolutely no points for badges. That defeats the purpose.
====Discussion====
Hi, could you further explain what you mean? I'm not sure what you mean by tab. ~~{{User:RodRedlineM1/sig}} 18:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


On the other side of things, actions like adding categories and photos are highly rewarded, despite not always being useful. We don't need categories that have five articles each, or a frame-by-frame gallery of a movie scene. In our wiki's history, we have had countless people who make hundreds of edits adding unnecessary categories and duplicate photos to articles, presumably for the sake of earning points. Even if they are not directly motivated by that, it is ridiculous that they are rewarded for doing so.
: it means the tab would be beside ;browser wiki; and ;navigation; if i wanna go to filmore's page it would look close to this


When I was younger, I myself fell into the trap of trying to rank up my leaderboard score as much as possible, so I know how fun it is to watch your points go up. However, I can assure you, as a long-time administrator, that quality is ''far'' more important than quantity. You don't need to be number one on a leaderboard to be a valued member of our community!
Chracters /\ | Navigation \/ | Community \/ | Other Languages \/ |
  _____________________________________________________
|          |          |                  |            |
|/Movies\/\|/Cars\/\/\|/Cars\/\/\/\/\/\/\| Lightning  |
| TV      | Planes  | Cars 2          | Tow Mater  |
|__________| Featured | Cars 3          | Mack      |
            |__________| Cars Toons      | Sarge      |
                      | Cars On the Road |/Filmore/\/\|
                      |__________________| Guido      |
                                          | Luigi      |
                                          | Van        |
                                          | Mini      |
                                          | Haarv      |
                                          |____________|


In short, the disproportionality of usefulness versus reward, as well as the sheer number of users we have seen fall into this trap over the years, makes the feature an active nuisance for the wiki. I think disabling it would be for the best. <span style="font-family:'Helvetica'">[[User:RodRedlineM1|<font color="#E0115F">'''RodRedlineM1''']]</font> ([[User talk:RodRedlineM1|<font color="#E0115F">''talk'']]</font>)</span> [[File:RinPixel.png|20px|]] 20:29, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
:basically you wanna search with ease. although i just noticed there is a character tab. its on the Browse Wiki tab and is a whole page. otherwise you can access the old page by clicking the characters twice.


'''Proposer''': <span style="font-family:'Helvetica'">[[User:RodRedlineM1|<font color="#E0115F">'''RodRedlineM1''']]</font> ([[User talk:RodRedlineM1|<font color="#E0115F">''talk'']]</font>)</span> [[File:RinPixel.png|20px|]]<br/>
: ~~{{User:Davidvercoolto/sig}} 18:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
'''Deadline''': Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 23:59 EST


====Support====
:: Sorry, the deadline expired and I didn't realize you came back to reply to it. Hard pass from me - I feel as though doing so neglects the rest of the ''Cars'' series, perhaps most notably the installments themselves. Navigation is something I would like to improve upon soon but in my opinion that's needed more on a page-to-page level. {{User:RodRedlineM1/sig}}07:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
*<span style="font-family:'Helvetica'">[[User:RodRedlineM1|<font color="#E0115F">'''RodRedlineM1''']]</font> ([[User talk:RodRedlineM1|<font color="#E0115F">''talk'']]</font>)</span> [[File:RinPixel.png|20px|]] &ndash; Per proposal.
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====Oppose====
==Talk page proposals==
Talk page proposals should be used when a proposal pertains to one individual article, or possibly a small set of related articles. These are held on the article's talk page instead of the main one here.


====Discussion====
===Rules===
*Talk page proposals must take place on the talk page of the relevant article, or one of them if multiple are involved.
*Place the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:TPP|TPP]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> template under the talk page section where voting will occur.
*Set up the proposal using the same format detailed in the "How-to" section above.
*After it has been created, submit your talk page proposal onto the list below, using the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:TPPlink|TPPlink]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> template.


==Completed proposals==
==Completed proposals==
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!Proposal || Voting Period || Proposer || Result || Effect
!Proposal || Voting Period || Proposer || Result || Effect
|-
|-
|Decide how to organize character articles<br/>
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#Create one page on all unnamed diecast pitties|Create one page on all unnamed diecast pitties]]
|September 17-September 24, 2023
|[[User:Carslikesninjago|Carslikesninjago]]
|<font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font>
|We will be creating one page to house information on all of the unnamed pitties released as [[1:55 Scale Die-Cast]] models.
|-
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#McQueen infobox|McQueen infobox]]
|September 9&ndash;September 16, 2023
|[[User:Carslikesninjago|Carslikesninjago]]
|<font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font>
|We will be adding [[Lightning McQueen]]'s "Radiator Springs" paintjob, from ''Cars: Mater-National Championship'' and ''Cars Toons'', to the infobox tabber on his page.
|-
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#Decide how to organize character articles|Decide how to organize character articles]]<br/>
|April 17&ndash;April 24, 2021
|April 17&ndash;April 24, 2021
|[[User:RodRedlineM1|RodRedlineM1]]
|[[User:RodRedlineM1|RodRedlineM1]]
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|We will use an out-of-universe style of writing, using present tense, when writing character articles.
|We will use an out-of-universe style of writing, using present tense, when writing character articles.
|-
|-
|Decide how to organize character infoboxes
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#Decide how to organize character infoboxes|Decide how to organize character infoboxes]]
|April 27&ndash;May 4, 2021
|April 27&ndash;May 4, 2021
||[[User:RodRedlineM1|RodRedlineM1]]
||[[User:RodRedlineM1|RodRedlineM1]]
|<font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font>
|<font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font>
|We will be using the classic character infobox template with some additional parameters on character articles.
|We will be using the classic character infobox template with some additional parameters on character articles.
|-
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#Disable the achievements system|Disable the achievements system]]
|May 5&ndash;May 12, 2021
|[[User:RodRedlineM1|RodRedlineM1]]
|<font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font>
|We will be disabling achievements on our wiki.
|}
===Completed talk page proposals===
{|class="wikitable"
|-
!Proposal || Voting Period || Proposer || Result || Effect
|-
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#Decide whether to move T.J. to T.J. Hummer|Decide whether to move T.J. to T.J. Hummer]]
|September 21-September 28, 2023, 23:59 GMT
|[[User:RodRedlineM1|RodRedlineM1]]
|<font color=orange>'''COMPROMISE'''</font>
|We have decided that the [[Pixar Cars Wiki:Naming|most common name]] should take precedence when deciding article titles.
|}
|}

Latest revision as of 15:02, 26 May 2024

Welcome to the hub for proposals. This section of the wiki allows users to share their ideas for potential changes to the wiki and look for consensus in approving them. The goal of this feature is to promote collaboration as a community and ensure that all Pixar Cars Wiki users have a say in important wiki decisions.

About

Process

  1. If you have an idea you would like to suggest, you may create a proposal by adding a topic under the "Active proposals" heading. Proposals can cover any articles and spaces. As the proposer, you must provide both an explanation of what your proposal consists of as well as a compelling argument to justify why it should be passed.
  2. Once a Proposal has been created, the voting period begins. Users have one week to declare whether they Support or Oppose the given proposal. This can be done by signing your username under either the "Support" or "Oppose" sections respectively, accompanied by an explanation of why you feel the way you do. All users can debate and discuss with one another in the "Discussion" heading.
  3. In certain cases, the Support or Oppose dichotomy may not do a discussion justice. Sometimes there are more options. In these sorts of situations, you can offer your opinion in multiple sections, so long as your selections do not contradict one another.
  4. After the week-long period ends, the final result is determined by which section had the most names signed. If the majority of users chose to Support the proposal, it indicates consensus, and the change may now be implemented. If more users chose to Oppose, the changes will not be put into effect.
  5. In the event of a tie, the voting period will be extended an additional week.
  6. Once completed, the result of the proposal will be logged at the bottom of this article, and an archive of its voting process will be catalogued here.

Rules

  1. Proposals must provide a detailed explanation of the intended change, as well as a mock-up or draft of what the change would look like in effect.
  2. You must choose to Support or Oppose, not both. In discussions with many options, you can sometimes pick more than one option, but make sure your answers are not contradictory.
  3. Just like a talk page, all comments must be left with a signature. This is done by typing four tildes (~~~~).
  4. While you are free to explain yourself however they like, you may not edit any comments that are not your own. The only situation in which a comment should be edited or removed is by an administrator in the event that the comment violates any of the site rules.
  5. All comments in the "Discuss" section must stay on topic.
  6. While there are no limits or requirements for the lengths of comments, explanations should be as clear and concise as possible. Do not reply with sarcasm or "jokes" that do not reflect your true thoughts.
  7. Proposals are all about discussing changes to the wiki. They are not a way to rally for community projects. For instance, an idea like "Upload screenshots for Cars: Radiator Springs Adventures" is not a valid proposal. These sorts of discussions are better had in the Forum.
  8. Please be respectful. It is perfectly fine, even encouraged, to debate, but arguments should be kept formal and not personal. Remember: Don't be a jerk.
  9. Administrators reserve the right to overturn any proposal. It is strongly advised that this power is used sparingly, only in situations that threaten the goals or integrity of the wiki.

How-to

Use the following format when submitting a new proposal: If you are new or unfamiliar with wiki source code, simply paste this under "Active Proposals", and fill in the relevant information as indicated by the placeholder [brackets].

===[insert title here]===
[describe the idea you are proposing, what changes this will entail, and why you think it should be passed]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "Monday, May 3, 2021, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} - Per proposal

====Oppose====

====Discussion====
----

Active proposals

The Character Tab

The Character Will Stay In The Top Of The Wiki Page. aka its the tab where you find your character. like when i wanna search for Lightning Mcqueen. i go to the Character tab and Click on which movie/show and then click on it to go to the page.

Proposer: Davidvercoolto (talk)
Deadline: November 30, 2023, 11:59 GMT

Support

  1. Davidvercoolto (talk) - Per proposal

Oppose

  1. RodRedlineM1 (talk) - Neglects other focal points, most notably the Cars series itself

Discussion

Hi, could you further explain what you mean? I'm not sure what you mean by tab. ~~User:RodRedlineM1/sig 18:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

it means the tab would be beside ;browser wiki; and ;navigation; if i wanna go to filmore's page it would look close to this
Chracters /\ | Navigation \/ | Community \/ | Other Languages \/ |
 _____________________________________________________
|          |          |                  |            |
|/Movies\/\|/Cars\/\/\|/Cars\/\/\/\/\/\/\| Lightning  |
| TV       | Planes   | Cars 2           | Tow Mater  |
|__________| Featured | Cars 3           | Mack       |
           |__________| Cars Toons       | Sarge      |
                      | Cars On the Road |/Filmore/\/\|
                      |__________________| Guido      |
                                         | Luigi      |
                                         | Van        |
                                         | Mini       |
                                         | Haarv      |
                                         |____________|
basically you wanna search with ease. although i just noticed there is a character tab. its on the Browse Wiki tab and is a whole page. otherwise you can access the old page by clicking the characters twice.
~~User:Davidvercoolto/sig 18:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Sorry, the deadline expired and I didn't realize you came back to reply to it. Hard pass from me - I feel as though doing so neglects the rest of the Cars series, perhaps most notably the installments themselves. Navigation is something I would like to improve upon soon but in my opinion that's needed more on a page-to-page level. User:RodRedlineM1/sig07:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Talk page proposals

Talk page proposals should be used when a proposal pertains to one individual article, or possibly a small set of related articles. These are held on the article's talk page instead of the main one here.

Rules

  • Talk page proposals must take place on the talk page of the relevant article, or one of them if multiple are involved.
  • Place the {{TPP}} template under the talk page section where voting will occur.
  • Set up the proposal using the same format detailed in the "How-to" section above.
  • After it has been created, submit your talk page proposal onto the list below, using the {{TPPlink}} template.

Completed proposals

Proposal Voting Period Proposer Result Effect
Create one page on all unnamed diecast pitties September 17-September 24, 2023 Carslikesninjago PASSED! We will be creating one page to house information on all of the unnamed pitties released as 1:55 Scale Die-Cast models.
McQueen infobox September 9–September 16, 2023 Carslikesninjago PASSED! We will be adding Lightning McQueen's "Radiator Springs" paintjob, from Cars: Mater-National Championship and Cars Toons, to the infobox tabber on his page.
Decide how to organize character articles
April 17–April 24, 2021 RodRedlineM1 PASSED! We will use an out-of-universe style of writing, using present tense, when writing character articles.
Decide how to organize character infoboxes April 27–May 4, 2021 RodRedlineM1 PASSED! We will be using the classic character infobox template with some additional parameters on character articles.
Disable the achievements system May 5–May 12, 2021 RodRedlineM1 PASSED! We will be disabling achievements on our wiki.

Completed talk page proposals

Proposal Voting Period Proposer Result Effect
Decide whether to move T.J. to T.J. Hummer September 21-September 28, 2023, 23:59 GMT RodRedlineM1 COMPROMISE We have decided that the most common name should take precedence when deciding article titles.