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Welcome to the hub for '''proposals'''. This section of the wiki allows users to share their ideas for potential changes to the wiki and look for consensus in approving them. The goal of this feature is to promote collaboration as a community and ensure that '''all''' World of Cars Wiki users have a say in important wiki decisions.
{{Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Header}}
 
==Process==
#If you have an idea you would like to suggest, you may create a proposal by adding a topic under the "Active proposals" heading. Proposals can cover any articles and spaces. As the proposer, you must provide both an explanation of what your proposal consists of as well as a compelling argument to justify why it should be passed.
#Once a Proposal has been created, the voting period begins. Users have one week to declare whether they '''Support''' or '''Oppose''' the given proposal. This can be done by [[World of Cars Wiki:Signatures|signing]] your username under either the "Support" or "Oppose" sections respectively, accompanied by an explanation of why you feel the way you do. All users can debate and discuss with one another in the "Discussion" heading.
#In certain cases, the '''Support''' or '''Oppose''' dichotomy may not do a discussion justice. Sometimes there are more options. In these sorts of situations, you can offer your opinion in multiple sections, so long as your selections do not contradict one another.
#After the week-long period ends, the final result is determined by which section had the most names signed. If the majority of users chose to Support the proposal, it indicates consensus, and the change may now be implemented. If more users chose to Oppose, the changes will not be put into effect.
#In the event of a tie, the voting period will be extended an additional week.
 
==Rules==
#Proposals must provide a detailed explanation of the intended change, as well as a mock-up or draft of what the change would look like in effect.
#You must choose to '''Support''' ''or'' '''Oppose''', not both. In discussions with many options, you can sometimes pick more than one option, but make sure your answers are not contradictory.
#While you are free to explain yourself however they like, you may ''not'' edit any comments that are not your own. The only situation in which a comment should be edited or removed is by an administrator in the event that the comment violates any of the [[World of Cars Wiki:Rules|site rules]].
#All comments must stay on topic.
#While there are no limits or requirements for the lengths of comments, explanations should be as clear and concise as possible. Do not reply with sarcasm or "jokes" that do not reflect your true thoughts.
#Proposals are all about discussing ''changes'' to the wiki. They are not a way to rally for community projects. For instance, an idea like "Upload screenshots for ''Cars: Radiator Springs Adventures''" is not a valid proposal. These sorts of discussions are better had in the [[Forum:Index|Forum]].
#Please be respectful. It is perfectly fine, even encouraged, to debate, but arguments should be kept formal and not personal. Remember: [[:wikipedia:Don't be a jerk|Don't be a jerk.]]


==Active proposals==
==Active proposals==
===Decide how to organize character infoboxes===
This time we're gonna take a look at character infoboxes, which have been another source of disagreement lately. [[User:124PX1]] announced in a [[User_blog:124PX1/New_Infobox_Character_Templates|user blog]] a few months ago that he made new infobox templates and that the wiki would start using them, but after looking into it, it seems this was just an "executive decision" and no one (including the other admins) were consulted about it.


While I can respect certain aspects of those designs, I'm not sure they really fit in our wiki. They feature a very large amount of parameters, many of which are already covered on the article itself. I've always followed the belief that infobox templates are best used to display the '''essential''' character information, that being their gender, hometown, other names they are known by, etc. The infobox template we already had was short and simple and accomplished this well, though maybe not as well as it could have -- I have some of my own ideas about that.
===The Character Tab===
The Character Will Stay In The Top Of The Wiki Page. aka its the tab where you find your character. like when i wanna search for Lightning Mcqueen. i go to the Character tab and Click on which movie/show and then click on it to go to the page.


I think that '''we should continue using the older, shorter infobox template, with a couple additional parameters to include other essential information'''. An example of one param would be a character's Make/Model, as that is basically the equivalent of Species in the ''Cars'' world. I have created a draft '''[[Template:Infobox Character/Draft|here]]''' of what this could look like. I also merged both "General information" and "Series information" into one "Character information" for the sake of making it as short as possible. I'm open to a lot of different ideas for what the template should include. I mainly just don't want infobox templates that run for half the page.
'''Proposer''': {{User|Davidvercoolto}}<br>
'''Deadline''': November 30, 2023, 11:59 GMT


I still need to figure out how to run proposals with multiple options, but for now, just sign under '''Support''' if you want to use the existing, shorter version (the one in my draft), or '''Oppose''' if you prefer 124PX1's longer ones. If you want to add/remove a parameter from my draft, just say so in the '''Discussion''' section and we can take it from there... maybe run smaller votes later if there's any huge disagreement. ~~{{User:RodRedlineM1/sig}} 05:34, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
====Support====
#{{User|Davidvercoolto}} - Per proposal


'''Proposer''': {{User:RodRedlineM1/sig}}<br>
====Oppose====
'''Deadline''': Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 23:59 EST<br>
#{{User|RodRedlineM1}} - Neglects other focal points, most notably the ''Cars'' series itself


====Support====
*{{User:RodRedlineM1/sig}} &ndash; Per my above explanation.
====Oppose====
====Discussion====
====Discussion====
"Other admins were not consulted". Other admins ignored any message from me or anybody other for few months back when I was writing those. Stop accusing me of working without consultation, when you did not cared at all on what was going on this wiki and basically left me alone to make all decision. [[User:124PX1|124PX1]] ([[User talk:124PX1|talk]]) 15:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi, could you further explain what you mean? I'm not sure what you mean by tab. ~~{{User:RodRedlineM1/sig}} 18:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


:While it is true that I was inactive for a long period of time, I can assure you it was not due to a lack of care. Aside from being both a college student and part-time worker (as well as having other hobbies), the main reason I was often deterred from editing here was because we lacked a mature userbase. It became tiring trying to run the wiki when the only active users did not speak English well and often ignored my warnings and edit summaries. A lot of the time I just felt helpless.
: it means the tab would be beside ;browser wiki; and ;navigation; if i wanna go to filmore's page it would look close to this


:With that in mind, as I have slowly become interested in wiki editing again over the last month, I have been realizing that there is a lot more I could have done back in the day. We lack clear help pages and detailed guidelines for editing, as well as community forums and resources, which is surely a large reason in why a lot of people were making edits with technical or formatting errors. I am currently working to rectify that. In addition to not being proud of how I have behaved in the past, I wish I had been more responsible in focusing on administrative duties back then, and both of those reasons have been driving my contributions lately.
Chracters /\ | Navigation \/ | Community \/ | Other Languages \/ |
  _____________________________________________________
|          |          |                  |            |
|/Movies\/\|/Cars\/\/\|/Cars\/\/\/\/\/\/\| Lightning  |
| TV      | Planes  | Cars 2          | Tow Mater  |
|__________| Featured | Cars 3          | Mack      |
            |__________| Cars Toons      | Sarge      |
                      | Cars On the Road |/Filmore/\/\|
                      |__________________| Guido      |
                                          | Luigi      |
                                          | Van        |
                                          | Mini      |
                                          | Haarv      |
                                          |____________|


:I have also been more than delighted to find that our current community is actually quite competent. We have several users who have been working to clean up gramatical errors and improve the writing, and generally just being really helpful. On top of that most people have been quite friendly to me, which again has inspired me to want to stay.
:basically you wanna search with ease. although i just noticed there is a character tab. its on the Browse Wiki tab and is a whole page. otherwise you can access the old page by clicking the characters twice.


:Lastly, while I am well aware that I ignored several messages over the course of the last few months and generally did not act responsibly as a bureaucrat, I am not sure now is the time to call me out for those things. ABG and I both left you messages recently asking to collaborate and you did not respond to those, and you also did not voice your opinion in last week's proposal. Regardless, while I have been doing my best lately to improve upon some of my past mistakes, I am not going to act like I have always been the greatest leader or person. I just want to be transparent about that. ~~ <span style="font-family:'Helvetica'">[[User:RodRedlineM1|<font color="#E0115F">'''RodRedlineM1''']]</font> ([[User talk:RodRedlineM1|<font color="#E0115F">''talk'']]</font>)</span> [[File:RinPixel.png|20px|]] 20:24, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
: ~~{{User:Davidvercoolto/sig}} 18:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


==Completed proposals==
:: Sorry, the deadline expired and I didn't realize you came back to reply to it. Hard pass from me - I feel as though doing so neglects the rest of the ''Cars'' series, perhaps most notably the installments themselves. Navigation is something I would like to improve upon soon but in my opinion that's needed more on a page-to-page level. {{User:RodRedlineM1/sig}}07:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
===Decide how to organize character articles===
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This is a poor example for a first proposal because normally I would not be the one drafting this proposal, but due to the current state of the administration I am going to have to take initiative in overseeing checks for consensus in the coming weeks.


The first matter that must be addressed is the character article format. In the time that I have been gone, [[User:124PX1]] has been writing and updating articles in past tense, which is different to the way we have always displayed our content. I did not consent to this change and as from what I can see in previous threads, no one else has.
==Talk page proposals==
Talk page proposals should be used when a proposal pertains to one individual article, or possibly a small set of related articles. These are held on the article's talk page instead of the main one here.


The layout of character articles will require a lot of different discussions, but for now we will focus on this proposal: '''We should continue writing articles from an out-of-universe perspective using present tense, instead of changing to an in-universe perspective using past tense.'''
===Rules===
*Talk page proposals must take place on the talk page of the relevant article, or one of them if multiple are involved.
*Place the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:TPP|TPP]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> template under the talk page section where voting will occur.
*Set up the proposal using the same format detailed in the "How-to" section above.
*After it has been created, submit your talk page proposal onto the list below, using the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:TPPlink|TPPlink]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> template.


'''Proposer''': {{User:RodRedlineM1/sig}}<br>
==Completed proposals==
'''Deadline''': Saturday, April 24, 2021, 23:59 EST<br>
{|class="wikitable"
'''Result''': <font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font> By 3-0 majority we will be using an out-of-universe style of writing, using present tense, for character articles.
|-
 
!Proposal || Voting Period || Proposer || Result || Effect
===Support===
|-
*{{User:RodRedlineM1/sig}} -- This is the way we have always presented our articles since the site's creation in 2011. It allows us to cover all ''Cars'' media without having to worry about playing the difficult game of discerning what is meant to be "canon" and what is not. The ''Cars'' universe is not meant to be taken super seriously and I believe this style reflects that. [[Snot Rod]] is a great example of an article using "my" format, if you would like to review. I also wrote more "in-depth" explanations [https://worldofcarsdrivein.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:124PX1?threadId=4400000000000255811 here] and [https://worldofcarsdrivein.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Lightening_McQueen?threadId=4400000000000255451#4400000000000849059 here]. I will be happy to elaborate and clarify wherever wanted or needed.
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#Create one page on all unnamed diecast pitties|Create one page on all unnamed diecast pitties]]
 
|September 17-September 24, 2023
*[[User:ABG1304|ABG1304]] -- I personally think the articles should've stay the way they were before. Cars doesn't have a strong canon and trying to make it seem like does is odd honestly. Especially since the "canon" seemingly is broken by Pixar themselves with them being very indirect about it. I mean just look at how they've been treating '''''Cars 2''''' recently and you'll see what I mean. I just don't think describing characters who are still alive with the words "was" is a smart choice because it gives the feeling that the character is either dead or retired (excluding the actual dead and retired characters) when they're not. Making the info boxes ridiculously long also isn't appealing either honestly. I rather have them be short and sweet (like they usually where back then) with the "technical" information being saved for the "Physical Description" part of the pages. Okay here's an edit for something I thought of: I'm also not a fan of the way racers are described. "Racing driver" and "aerobatic aircraft" make zero sense in terms of context for the Cars Universe. There are no humans so why describe them like that? Not even in the universe are the racers called racing drivers or aerobatic aircrafts, they're called race cars or racing planes due to the lack of humans. I also think racing car is just pointless as well because "race car" literally means the same thing, same case with "stock race car". While it might not be grammatically incorrect it's pointless to put race between stock and car as the term "stock car" is already associated with racing itself and really nothing else so adding it between the words is super redundant. That's all I can currently think of right now once again, I might comeback and edit my support if I can think of anything else but for now that's it.
|[[User:Carslikesninjago|Carslikesninjago]]
 
|<font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font>
*[[User:Lumbud84|Lumbud84]] -- I am so relieved that I'm not the only person who was pushing for the wiki's format to stay the way it always has been during that period where 124PX1 watched over literally everything. I created multiple new articles upon the reveals of the names of certain Next-Gen racers ([[Jim Reverick]], [[George New-Win]], [[Will Rusch]], [[William Byrev]], and [[Carstin Dillon]]) and every single time I wrote one of those articles, the quality consistently dropped after 124PX1 made edits to it '''''(you can look through the version history on the pages on any of the articles I listed before and compare one of my early edits to one of his later ones to exactly what I mean, I highly suggest you do that)'''''. Afterwards, I kept trying to explain to them that past tense should only be used when a character is dead or no longer a car, but nevertheless, they still made edits to the wiki that significantly dropped the quality of the pages they were editing. They even defended the idea that "these events happened a long time ago" when the new Next-Gen diecasts were revealed only a week earlier. All in all, the wiki was completely fine how it was before this whole "in-universe past-tense" thing. The changes that 124PX1 has been making to these articles have been mostly negative, filling the page with spelling and grammatical errors, as well as deleting in-depth explanations and replacing them with extremely dumbed-down surface-level descriptions. I vote to keep the wiki how it's always been since its creation, a well-trusted source for any and all material Cars-related.
|We will be creating one page to house information on all of the unnamed pitties released as [[1:55 Scale Die-Cast]] models.
 
|-
====Oppose====
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#McQueen infobox|McQueen infobox]]
 
|September 9&ndash;September 16, 2023
====Discussion====
|[[User:Carslikesninjago|Carslikesninjago]]
In response to ABG's explanation: 100% with you on the infoboxes. I think it is redundant to have so many features in the infobox when we already cover most of the parameters on the article itself. Totally agree about keeping things short and simple. I will say I do ''like'' 124PX1's infoboxes by themselves, but I just don't think they work well on ''this'' wiki, if that makes sense. Since you brought it up, we'll make that next week's proposal after this one finishes. In the future we will probably be able to run more than one proposal concurrently, but I just want to wait and see how this one works out first. Best to keep things simple while people are still getting used to everything.
|<font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font>
 
|We will be adding [[Lightning McQueen]]'s "Radiator Springs" paintjob, from ''Cars: Mater-National Championship'' and ''Cars Toons'', to the infobox tabber on his page.
@Lumbud84: I am pleased to see your name on the list and that you're still here. I recently read through the messages you left on both my wall and 124PX1's wall about the next-gen issues a while ago, so I'm already aware of what happened there. I'm really sorry that I never got back to you back then. I saw you haven't really edited since and I was worried you were turned away because of that. The good news is, I'm here to stay, so something like that will ''not'' happen again.
|-
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#Decide how to organize character articles|Decide how to organize character articles]]<br/>
|April 17&ndash;April 24, 2021
|[[User:RodRedlineM1|RodRedlineM1]]
|<font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font>
|We will use an out-of-universe style of writing, using present tense, when writing character articles.
|-
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#Decide how to organize character infoboxes|Decide how to organize character infoboxes]]
|April 27&ndash;May 4, 2021
||[[User:RodRedlineM1|RodRedlineM1]]
|<font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font>
|We will be using the classic character infobox template with some additional parameters on character articles.
|-
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#Disable the achievements system|Disable the achievements system]]
|May 5&ndash;May 12, 2021
|[[User:RodRedlineM1|RodRedlineM1]]
|<font color=green>'''PASSED!'''</font>
|We will be disabling achievements on our wiki.
|}


Great discussion, guys. Keep it comin'. ~~ {{User:RodRedlineM1/sig}}
===Completed talk page proposals===
{|class="wikitable"
|-
!Proposal || Voting Period || Proposer || Result || Effect
|-
|[[Pixar Cars Wiki:Proposals/Archive#Decide whether to move T.J. to T.J. Hummer|Decide whether to move T.J. to T.J. Hummer]]
|September 21-September 28, 2023, 23:59 GMT
|[[User:RodRedlineM1|RodRedlineM1]]
|<font color=orange>'''COMPROMISE'''</font>
|We have decided that the [[Pixar Cars Wiki:Naming|most common name]] should take precedence when deciding article titles.
|}

Latest revision as of 15:02, 26 May 2024

Welcome to the hub for proposals. This section of the wiki allows users to share their ideas for potential changes to the wiki and look for consensus in approving them. The goal of this feature is to promote collaboration as a community and ensure that all Pixar Cars Wiki users have a say in important wiki decisions.

About

Process

  1. If you have an idea you would like to suggest, you may create a proposal by adding a topic under the "Active proposals" heading. Proposals can cover any articles and spaces. As the proposer, you must provide both an explanation of what your proposal consists of as well as a compelling argument to justify why it should be passed.
  2. Once a Proposal has been created, the voting period begins. Users have one week to declare whether they Support or Oppose the given proposal. This can be done by signing your username under either the "Support" or "Oppose" sections respectively, accompanied by an explanation of why you feel the way you do. All users can debate and discuss with one another in the "Discussion" heading.
  3. In certain cases, the Support or Oppose dichotomy may not do a discussion justice. Sometimes there are more options. In these sorts of situations, you can offer your opinion in multiple sections, so long as your selections do not contradict one another.
  4. After the week-long period ends, the final result is determined by which section had the most names signed. If the majority of users chose to Support the proposal, it indicates consensus, and the change may now be implemented. If more users chose to Oppose, the changes will not be put into effect.
  5. In the event of a tie, the voting period will be extended an additional week.
  6. Once completed, the result of the proposal will be logged at the bottom of this article, and an archive of its voting process will be catalogued here.

Rules

  1. Proposals must provide a detailed explanation of the intended change, as well as a mock-up or draft of what the change would look like in effect.
  2. You must choose to Support or Oppose, not both. In discussions with many options, you can sometimes pick more than one option, but make sure your answers are not contradictory.
  3. Just like a talk page, all comments must be left with a signature. This is done by typing four tildes (~~~~).
  4. While you are free to explain yourself however they like, you may not edit any comments that are not your own. The only situation in which a comment should be edited or removed is by an administrator in the event that the comment violates any of the site rules.
  5. All comments in the "Discuss" section must stay on topic.
  6. While there are no limits or requirements for the lengths of comments, explanations should be as clear and concise as possible. Do not reply with sarcasm or "jokes" that do not reflect your true thoughts.
  7. Proposals are all about discussing changes to the wiki. They are not a way to rally for community projects. For instance, an idea like "Upload screenshots for Cars: Radiator Springs Adventures" is not a valid proposal. These sorts of discussions are better had in the Forum.
  8. Please be respectful. It is perfectly fine, even encouraged, to debate, but arguments should be kept formal and not personal. Remember: Don't be a jerk.
  9. Administrators reserve the right to overturn any proposal. It is strongly advised that this power is used sparingly, only in situations that threaten the goals or integrity of the wiki.

How-to

Use the following format when submitting a new proposal: If you are new or unfamiliar with wiki source code, simply paste this under "Active Proposals", and fill in the relevant information as indicated by the placeholder [brackets]. 

===[insert title here]===
[describe the idea you are proposing, what changes this will entail, and why you think it should be passed]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "Monday, May 3, 2021, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} - Per proposal

====Oppose====

====Discussion====
----

Active proposals

The Character Tab

The Character Will Stay In The Top Of The Wiki Page. aka its the tab where you find your character. like when i wanna search for Lightning Mcqueen. i go to the Character tab and Click on which movie/show and then click on it to go to the page.

Proposer: Davidvercoolto (talk)
Deadline: November 30, 2023, 11:59 GMT

Support

  1. Davidvercoolto (talk) - Per proposal

Oppose

  1. RodRedlineM1 (talk) - Neglects other focal points, most notably the Cars series itself

Discussion

Hi, could you further explain what you mean? I'm not sure what you mean by tab. ~~User:RodRedlineM1/sig 18:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

it means the tab would be beside ;browser wiki; and ;navigation; if i wanna go to filmore's page it would look close to this
Chracters /\ | Navigation \/ | Community \/ | Other Languages \/ |
 _____________________________________________________
|          |          |                  |            |
|/Movies\/\|/Cars\/\/\|/Cars\/\/\/\/\/\/\| Lightning  |
| TV       | Planes   | Cars 2           | Tow Mater  |
|__________| Featured | Cars 3           | Mack       |
           |__________| Cars Toons       | Sarge      |
                      | Cars On the Road |/Filmore/\/\|
                      |__________________| Guido      |
                                         | Luigi      |
                                         | Van        |
                                         | Mini       |
                                         | Haarv      |
                                         |____________|
basically you wanna search with ease. although i just noticed there is a character tab. its on the Browse Wiki tab and is a whole page. otherwise you can access the old page by clicking the characters twice.
~~User:Davidvercoolto/sig 18:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Sorry, the deadline expired and I didn't realize you came back to reply to it. Hard pass from me - I feel as though doing so neglects the rest of the Cars series, perhaps most notably the installments themselves. Navigation is something I would like to improve upon soon but in my opinion that's needed more on a page-to-page level. User:RodRedlineM1/sig07:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Talk page proposals

Talk page proposals should be used when a proposal pertains to one individual article, or possibly a small set of related articles. These are held on the article's talk page instead of the main one here.

Rules

  • Talk page proposals must take place on the talk page of the relevant article, or one of them if multiple are involved.
  • Place the {{TPP}} template under the talk page section where voting will occur.
  • Set up the proposal using the same format detailed in the "How-to" section above.
  • After it has been created, submit your talk page proposal onto the list below, using the {{TPPlink}} template.

Completed proposals

Proposal Voting Period Proposer Result Effect
Create one page on all unnamed diecast pitties September 17-September 24, 2023 Carslikesninjago PASSED! We will be creating one page to house information on all of the unnamed pitties released as 1:55 Scale Die-Cast models.
McQueen infobox September 9–September 16, 2023 Carslikesninjago PASSED! We will be adding Lightning McQueen's "Radiator Springs" paintjob, from Cars: Mater-National Championship and Cars Toons, to the infobox tabber on his page.
Decide how to organize character articles
 April 17–April 24, 2021 RodRedlineM1 PASSED! We will use an out-of-universe style of writing, using present tense, when writing character articles.
Decide how to organize character infoboxes April 27–May 4, 2021 RodRedlineM1 PASSED! We will be using the classic character infobox template with some additional parameters on character articles.
Disable the achievements system May 5–May 12, 2021 RodRedlineM1 PASSED! We will be disabling achievements on our wiki.

Completed talk page proposals

Proposal Voting Period Proposer Result Effect
Decide whether to move T.J. to T.J. Hummer September 21-September 28, 2023, 23:59 GMT RodRedlineM1 COMPROMISE We have decided that the most common name should take precedence when deciding article titles.
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